Messages in this thread |  | | Date | Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:08:39 +0000 | From | Pavel Machek <> | Subject | Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management? |
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Hi!
> > >I would disagree that it's a peripheral issue, it's pretty core these > > >days, at least for any hardware that you can stuff in a laptop (though a > > >fair number of desktops get suspended and resumed these days too). > > > > Servers are still the most important Linux market, and don't care > > about suspend/resume. I would consider implementing suspend./resume > > for a driver that will only be used in server or HPC class hardware a > > waste of valuable development resources. > > Please allow me to be offensively blunt for a moment. > > So, the situation seems to be: > > 1. The work of the suspend developer who engages the users who put > effort into making suspend work on their hardware (bless > their addled little heads) often doesn't meet kernel standards, > or isn't well enough documented to prove the real *need* for > the features and/or hacks that have happened to get actual > users' systems sleeping and running again. > > 2. The swsusp maintainer continues in the belief that as long as > their are no bug reports in kernel bugzilla or crossing the > (relatively obscure) swsusp mailing lists, it has zarro boogs > and meanwhile works on the fourth implementation of suspend > support in as many years. It's in CVS on sourceforge. There's > no documentation whatsoever. .... > 4. "Everybody" knows suspend doesn't work on Linux without a huge > amount of tinkering, deep magic, and dead chickens. Only > Gentoo users seem to bother; everyone else waits for Ubuntu > 12.04 wherein suspend will "just work". The Gentoo users all > use swsusp2, as it contains the hacks to work around:
Suspend just works in suse10.2 (and suse10.1, and suse10.0, ...)... thanks to work seife did on pm scripts. It is not my fault if it is broken on your distro.
> 6. Getting proper power-management support in Linux device drivers > is not a priority; drivers without any power management support > whatsoever should not only be accepted -- they should be merged > without comment or complaint. > > How is working suspend support ever supposed to happen?
If people stopped sending rants and started sending patches... yep, that would help. I don't have all the notebooks ever produced, sorry.
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