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SubjectRe: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1
On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 11:01:07AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> And the 10% where it doesn't work it is a real pain to figure what goes
> wrong due to the completely unreadable Makefiles generated by autotools.
> After all they are not Makefiles, they are shellscripts embedded into
> Makefiles.

Do not mistake the use of autoconf with automake. automake
generates the unreadable Makefiles. You can quite easily create a
useful Makefile yourself and use autoconf to select installation
locations, detect features of older/newer libcs, etc. See
http://oss.oracle.com/projects/makebo/ for an example of a build system
that doesn't use automake, but allows for autoconf to do build-time
configuration (an example user of makebo is ocfs2-tools, see
http://oss.oracle.com/projects/ocfs2-tools/src/trunk/).
And if you think that all packages should Just Work on all
Linuxen, with out any build-time detection, try determining the
differing udev layouts of FC6, FC7, Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE9, SuSE10, etc.
Or where manpages go. The %configure of RPM specfiles and the
dh_installman of debian packages handle this for you...often because
they can use expected behavior of your build system. What about
futexes? Older systems don't have them. Gotta detect that.

Joel

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Just like a ship out on the sea.
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Joel Becker
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Oracle
E-mail: joel.becker@oracle.com
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