Messages in this thread | | | Date | Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:16:47 +0000 | From | Russell King <> | Subject | Re: New (now current development process) |
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 01:48:56AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: > On Sunday 30 October 2005 20:12, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > The freezes are for fixing bugs, especially recent regressions. There's no > > shortage of them, you know. > > > > I you can think of a better way to get kernel developers off their butts > > and actually fixing bugs, I'm all ears. > > The problem is that you usually cannot do proper bug fixing because > the release might be just around the corner, so you typically > chose the ugly workaround or revert, or just reject changes for bugs that a > are too risky or the impact too low because there is not enough time to > properly test anymore. > > It might work better if we were told when the releases would actually > happen and you don't need to fear that this not quite tested everywhere > bugfix you're about to submit might make it into the gold kernel, breaking > the world for some subset of users.
Indeed - a prime example is the bootmem initialisation problem. Had I known on 1st October that the final release wouldn't have been for a long time, I'd have applied that patch and you wouldn't have had that problem with ARM relying on the bootmem initialisation order clashing with your ia64 (or x86_64) swiotlb fix.
But stupid rmk - again I hasten to add - was suckered into this "-rc is frozen" idea again and decided it wasn't appropriate to submit it. In hind-sight, there would have been plenty of time to sort out any issues.
Hell, we held up 2.6.14 for swiotlb _anyway_.
Time to start writing those lines... I must learn to ignore what Linus says about frozen releases. I must learn to ignore what Linus says about frozen releases. I must learn to ignore what Linus says about frozen releases. I must learn to ignore what Linus says about frozen releases. I must learn to ignore what Linus says about frozen releases. I must learn to ignore what Linus says about frozen releases. I must learn to ignore what Linus says about frozen releases. I must learn to ignore what Linus says about frozen releases.
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