Messages in this thread | | | Subject | Re: Interesting analysis of linux kernel threading by IBM | Date | Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:34:48 -0300 | From | Horst von Brand <> |
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Davide Libenzi <davidel@maticad.it>, David Lang <dlang@diginsite.com>, said: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Horst von Brand wrote:
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> > Hondreds of tasks is just not a typical (perhaps even realistic) > > workload.
> Yes it is. > > If you are running a webserver.
Hundreds of CGIs running at the same time? Wow. But there I'd split load among machines way before...
> Or a highly threaded application.
Higly stupid idea, typically.
> Or a machine with a lot of users. (For example, a University unix server)
I have such machines here (dozens of users, plus random services). Rarely gets to 10.
> Or an ftp server. (Where is the Linux equivalent of FreeBSD's > ftp.cdrom.com?)
Hundreds of people downloading at the same time is not the same as hundreds of running tasks...
> It is really a question of "Where does Linux want to go?"
Benchmarkland, or real-world useful system?
> If it wants to be a high performance server, Linux needs a new > scheduler.
Say which hard facts?
> If it wants to be the most efficient desktop machine, then it doesn't > need it NOW. However, the average number of programs people are > running on their machine are increasing, not decreasing.
Yes. I expert load average to be in the ones soon, not 0.1s anymore.
> Linux's real penetration has been in the server market. Why not make > it the best server it can be?
Nobody is saying we shouldn't do it. But before screwing around, _measure_ where the real bottlenecks (for _real_ use, not benchmarks) are. -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand mailto:vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513
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