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SubjectRe: [PATCH RFC 1/2] Add polling support to pidfd
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On 19.04.19 23:21, Daniel Colascione wrote:

>> EPOLLIN on a pidfd could very well mean that data can be read via
>> a read() on the pidfd *other* than the exit status. The read could e.g.
>> give you a lean struct that indicates the type of state transition: NOTIFY_EXIT,
>> NOTIFY_EXEC, etc.. This way we are not bound to a specific poll event indicating
>> a specific state.
>> Though there's a case to be made that EPOLLHUP could indicate process exit
>> and EPOLLIN a state change + read().
>
> And do you imagine making read() destructive? Does that read() then
> reset the POLLIN state? You're essentially proposing that a pidfd
> provide an "event stream" interface, delivering notifications packets
> that indicate state changes like "process exited" or "process stopped"
> or "process execed". While this sort of interface is powerful and has
> some nice properties that tools like debuggers and daemon monitors
> might want to use, I think it's too complicated and error prone for
> the overwhelmingly common case of wanting to monitor process lifetime.

I don't think it's so complicated. read() + comparing a few bits
(eg. strncmp(), if the packets are strings) really isn't a big deal.

Actually, I proposed quite the same (before I read this mail).

> I like Linus' idea of just making waitid(2) (not waitpid(2), as I
> mistakenly mentioned earlier) on a pidfd act *exactly* like a
> waitid(2) on the corresponding process and making POLLIN just mean
> "waitid will succeed". It's a nice simple model that's easy to reason
> about and that makes it easy to port existing code to pidfds.

Okay, that's probably a good starting point. We could add more
sophisticated monitoring later.


--mtx


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Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
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