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SubjectRe: [patch update] PM: Introduce core framework for run-time PM of I/O devices (rev. 6)
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> > Another possible approach you could take when the call to
> > cancel_delayed_work fails (which should be rare) is to turn on RPM_WAKE
> > in addition to RPM_IDLE and leave the suspend request queued. When
> > __pm_runtime_suspend sees both flags are set, it should abort and set
> > the status directly back to RPM_ACTIVE. At that time the idle
> > notifications can start up again.
> >
> > Is this any better? I can't see how drivers would care, though.
> There still is the problem that the suspend request is occupying the
> work_struct which cannot be used for any other purpose.

What other purpose? We don't send idle notifications in RPM_IDLE and
resume requests don't need to be stored since (as described above) they
just set the RPM_WAKE flag. Hence nothing else needs to use the

> I don't think this
> is avoidable, though. This way or another it is possible to have two requests
> pending at a time.
> Perhaps the simplest thing to do would be to simply ignore pending suspend
> requests in both pm_request_resume() and pm_runtime_resume() and to allow
> them to be scheduled at any time. That shouldn't hurt anything as long as
> pm_runtime_suspend() is smart enough, but it has to be anyway, because it
> can be run synchronously at any time.
> The only question is what pm_runtime_suspend() should do when it sees a pending
> suspend request and quite frankly I think it can just ignore it as well,
> leaving the RPM_IDLE bit set. In which case the name RPM_IDLE will not really
> be adequate, so perhaps it can be renamed to RPM_REQUEST or something like
> this.
> Then, we'll need a separate work structure for suspend requests, but I have no
> problem with that.

You seem to be thinking about these requests in a very different way
from me. They don't form a queue or anything like that. Instead they
mean "Change the device's power state to this value as soon as
possible" -- and they are needed only because sometimes (in atomic or
interrupt contexts) the change can't be made right away.

That's why it doesn't make any sense to have both a suspend and a
resume request pending at the same time. It would mean the driver is
telling us "Change the device's power state to both low-power and
full-power as soon as possible"!

We should settle on a general policy for how to handle it when a
driver makes the mistake of telling us to do contradictory things.
There are three natural policies:

The first request takes precedence over the second;

The second request takes precedence over the first;

Resumes take precedence over suspends.

Any one of those would be acceptable.

Alan Stern

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