Messages in this thread | | | Subject | Re: [patch] MTD: fix DOC2000/2001/2001PLUS build error | From | David Woodhouse <> | Date | Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:38:04 +0000 |
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On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 08:53 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > WE WANT TO BE NICE. > - the firewall example was not an example of 'select', but of the "we > want to be nice". But you simply DID NOT GET IT.
It's a very clever straw man, Linus, but it's still bogus. Not only do I _agree_ about the firewall example, I've even implemented very similar things already, of my own accord. I really do get it.
I don't claim that we shouldn't "be nice". You keep coming back to that but it bears no relation to what I'm actually saying.
> - the USB and SATA examples are *also* examples of "we want to be nice", > and hell yeah, you need 'select' to do them. Claiming anything else is > just stupid. > > So: are you stupid, or do you just refuse to even think about it?
I claim that there are _better_ ways to do it than 'select'. I claim that we can 'be nice' without actually screwing over the people who use non-interactive config methods and need to turn stuff off. A number of whom have spoken up already but are perhaps less quixotic than I am so have given up on getting you to listen.
99% of the times I configure a kernel, it's in an RPM package. The answer "you can use xconfig and press the question mark" isn't wonderfully useful -- although having xconfig be the answer for those who need the extra guidance that 'select' currently offers is perhaps a more reasonable solution.
But it doesn't matter. I'll come up with a hack for the tools which make them (optionally) treat 'select' of a user-visible option as if it was just 'depends on'. And that should fix the problem.
-- dwmw2
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