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SubjectRe: __get_free_pages(): is the MEM really mine?
Ingo Molnar wrote:

> well - what did you expect to happen? A freed page is going to be reused
> for other purposes. A big 2MB allocation can be reused in part, once
> memory usage grows.

With my knowledge, I expected exactly that.

> So you should not expect the device to be able to DMA
> into a page that got freed, unpunished.

I am not. The DMA ioctl() finishes before the close() -> free happens after
the hexdump and the DMA. The buffer is allocated in open. The fact that I get
the same buffer again next time shows that the free is sucessful and
effective, right?

Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: rsc_open() minor=$1B
Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: DMA blk 0 at KV:$CE800000 BUS:$0E800000
Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: DMA blk 1 at KV:$CE600000 BUS:$0E600000
contig <

Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: Collected DMA Buffer1 at KS:$0000CE600000

Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: rsc_ioctl()
Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: RSC_IOC_DMA_OUT

Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: rsc_close()

Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: Free DMA blk 0 at KS:$CE800000
Sep 27 11:43:28 pcma73 kernel: Free DMA blk 1 at KS:$CE600000

> Perhaps i'm misunderstanding the problem.

My problem is, I'm out of ideas. All I can think of is describe as much as
possible the relevant things that I do and the things that occur. Maybe
someone more experienced recognizes a principal flaw in the concept.

> Plus, if you allocate a 2MB
> physically continuous chunk then the likelyhood is high that there were
> fragmented pages skipped during the initial search for a 2MB block - so
> you still have a fair likelyhood to reallocate it after some time, if
> memory usage is light. But this likelyhood nears zero once RAM usage gets
> near 100%.

And I can rely on the fact that all the 2 MB are contig memory without
holes, right? It's completely mine, isn't it?
Or is it perhaps illegal to let the mem usage pump?
Should I better allocate the mem in init_module() instead of rsc_open()?
Probably page tables are more likely to get corrupted than they would be if
I allocate only once. Or do I have to use a spin_lock somewhere in the nopage
method?


>From my tests I'm ready the believe the 1st page really _is_ mine but now
I'm not so sure all the
(1 << 9) pages really are.

If I don't access the pages, just allocate them and free them after some
time, I never saw any instabilities. But it seems that as soon as I access pages
above the 1st in the buffer, something gets corrupted. So maybe today it's
only legal to allocate 1 page at a time and I have to do that
(1<<10) times...

Or maybe some of the VM trouble I read about recntly would also cover my
problems?

Thanks,

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