Messages in this thread |  | | From | "Dunlap, Randy" <> | Subject | RE: Availability of kdb | Date | Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:15:48 -0700 |
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I agree completely. I'd love to see it there. I'd even help break^W fix it.
~Randy ___________________________________________________ |Randy Dunlap Intel Corp., DAL Sr. SW Engr.| |randy.dunlap.at.intel.com 503-696-2055| |NOTE: Any views presented here are mine alone | |and may not represent the views of my employer. | |_________________________________________________|
> -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Phillips > [mailto:news-innominate.list.linux.kernel@innominate.de] > Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:12 AM > To: Mike Galbraith; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Subject: Availability of kdb > > > Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Damien Miller wrote: > > > > > Tools like a KDB would make the kernel a lot more > accessible to the > > > time-poor. > > > > Kdb is available to all. I think it should be _integrated_ mostly > > because of the (potential) improvement in bug report quality. > > Well, yes and no. As maintained by SGI, kdb is up to date: > ftp://oss.sgi.com/www/projects/kdb/download/ix86/kdb-v1.3-2.4. > 0-test8-pre4.gz > > As maintained in the official ikd package, kdb is unusuably out of > date, at least for me: > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/andrea/ikd/v2.4/2 .4.0-test2-ikd2.bz2
Q: If kdb were a kernel option, would the official version be out of date, the way it is now? A: no.
Q: If kdb were a kernel option, would Linus be called on to fix it when it breaks? A: no, obviously not, Linus is too busy
Q: Who would fix it then? A: Whoever breaks it.
Q: What if Linus breaks it? A: That's a special case. I personally will drop whatever I'm doing and try to fix it. I will cordially invite J. Dow, J. Merkey, R. Gootch, and various other degenerate powertool lovers to help.
Q: Would kdb in the kernel result in more bugs getting fixed faster? A: Yes, no doubt
Q: Do we need more bugs fixed faster? A: Yes, we need that desperately.
Q: Would kdb in the kernel give us more eyes on the bugs, making them even shallower than they already are? A: Why, yes it would.
Q: Will kdb make your kernel bigger or slow it down? A: Not if you don't use it.
Q: Is kdb a big patch? A: It's only 93K, zipped.
Q: Then why isn't kdb in the kernel? A: Uh...
-- Daniel
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