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SubjectRe: Linux 2.2.15pre12
On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:

> - the reports you saw here the last time contained error
> messages from kernels _without_ the "smart" killing logic
> - if you show me where the oom killing breaks for you, I'll
> gladly fix it
>

well, the reason i posted was because a machine running 2.2.14 that i'd
been logged into via XDM /suddenly/ started thrashing, intensive,
continious i/o, and xterms on that machine became very
unresponsive within a matter of 30 seconds. The machine was totally dead
about 5 min later, with lot's of killing xyz messages, where xyz were
things like fetchmail, crond, sendmail, etc... but not any of the X11
memory hogs (netscape)[1] that were actually causing the problem.

so i wasn't impressed.. however alan reckons 2.2.15 is improved, so i'll
wait and give that a try.

i still have a bad feeling about this killing thing though. I understand
it's half a dozen of one (harder VM, but possibly wasteful of RAM) and 6
of the other (less restrictive VM, more efficient RAM usage, but walking
on a tightrope). But i still think OOM killing is a kludge.

What'd be nice (perhaps for 2.5) would be perhaps VM policy classes. Eg
so that i could say "let processes of class A be allocated memory using
the standard 'lazy' VM model, and let the VM allocate memory to
processes in class B in a 'hard' way."

Processes in class A would ones whose memory needs/behaviour i
know/trust will not cause problems, eg most of my system daemons. Class
B processes would be those fat bloated hogs like netscape. How to define
certain processes being in one class, and others in another is a problem
though. And i gather from alan that 'hard' VMA is difficult to implement
correctly.

still, in a perfect world.... :)
> regards,
>
> Rik
> --

regards,

Paul Jakma.
paul@clubi.ie


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