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    SubjectRe: Linux 2.6.35-rc2
    On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Alex Deucher <> wrote:
    > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Dave Airlie <> wrote:
    >> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Torsten Kaiser
    >> <> wrote:
    >>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Alex Deucher <> wrote:
    >>>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Torsten Kaiser
    >>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>> [CC:Jeff+Tejun not removed, because you might want to look at the
    >>>>> attached dmesgs]
    >>>>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Linus Torvalds
    >>>>> <> wrote:
    >>>>>> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010, Torsten Kaiser wrote:
    >>>>>>> The first problem that shows up is, that after the KMS switches to the
    >>>>>>> correct video mode (1280x1024 for an DVI attached LCD), the display
    >>>>>>> begins to flicker. Every 1..2 seconds (guesstimated) the display turns
    >>>>>>> off and on again. Something in the new powersaving?
    >>>>>> Or maybe a borderline display timing that the display has trouble syncing
    >>>>>> up with?
    >>>>> With 2.6.34 and any previous KMS kernels the output was always stable.
    >>>>> (I think, I switch to the radeon KMS on 2.6.32)
    >>>>> The onscreen menu of the monitor showed 1280x1024@60.2Hz for
    >>>>> 2.6.35-rc2, if I recall correctly.
    >>>>> Now back on 2.6.34 its 1280x1024@59.9Hz.
    >>>> The pm code shouldn't have any affect as your system only has one
    >>>> power state, so it never kicks in.  It sounds like a display pll
    >>>> problem, but there haven't been any changes to that code since 2.6.34.
    >>>>  Any chance you could bisect it?
    >>> Not really. -rc1 did not boot for me (although if I disable v4l that
    >>> might work), and there is this memory corruption error.
    >>> Regarding the PLLs, did you see this mail? It contains the
    >>> drm.debug=15 output from 2.6.34 and 2.6.35-rc2.
    >>> The debug output from radeon_set_pll looks identical. But in 2.6.35 a
    >>> call to [drm:radeon_legacy_tmds_int_dpms], seems new.
    >>> The switchoff intervall is ~10 seconds, not 1..2 as I guessed in the first mail.
    >>> Any idea if there is something in the KMS code that triggers at this intervall?
    >> The new mode probing code happens every 10 seconds, though we
    >> shouldn't be turning anything on or off with it.
    >> So I suspect the DAC detection table might be doing bad things on your
    >> hardware, we have had a problem where the dac detect table on one DAC
    >> would turn the other one off which clearly wasn't what we wanted to
    >> see.
    >> ,
    > The x300 is a non-atom card, so it uses the legacy load detection
    > routines which do mess with some of the crtc regs.

    Okay I see it now, I'm amazed that I was seeing this issue last week
    and blaming it on something complete different and only seeing it on
    one card.

    I expect its the same problem I'll try and track down a proper fix for
    it tomorrow.

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