Messages in this thread | | | Date | Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:05:20 -0800 | From | Mike Fedyk <> | Subject | Re: ext3 and undeletion |
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 05:54:58PM +0100, Martin Dalecki wrote: > Mike Fedyk wrote: > >Can you describe the pitfalls that VMS went through so we can aviod the > >problems? > > > >I haven't had the chance to use VMS, and don't have any hardware to try it > >out on. Also, just because one implementation was bad (even long ago, and > >unix was considered bad then too... ;) does it mean the entire idea is bad. > > Yes I can. The main problem is that most people think that undeletion > is a magical way of getting around stiupid users.
That is one use, but not the only use. It is one feature that is missing on Linux. I don't know what other unix-like systems have, but it'd be nice if Linux had it.
>But the fact is > that the very same users very quickly adapt to the the presence of > undeletion facilities. And guess whot? They will expect you to > instantly recover allways a version of "this" file from the "stone age". > So the pain for the sysadmin will certainly not be decreased. Quite > contrary for what he expects.
Yes, I can understand this exactly, but it still doesn't negate the usefulness of undeletion.
>For the educated user it was always a pain > in the you know where, to constantly run out of quota space due to > file versioning.
Ahh, so we'd need to chown the files to root (or a configurable user and group) to get around the quota issue.
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