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SubjectRe: [PATCH 6/6] mm/page_alloc: Remotely drain per-cpu lists
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 05:19:18PM +0200, Nicolas Saenz Julienne wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 16:04 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 12:37:43PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Thu, 12 May 2022 09:50:43 +0100 Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzju@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > Some setups, notably NOHZ_FULL CPUs, are too busy to handle the per-cpu
> > > > drain work queued by __drain_all_pages(). So introduce a new mechanism to
> > > > remotely drain the per-cpu lists. It is made possible by remotely locking
> > > > 'struct per_cpu_pages' new per-cpu spinlocks. A benefit of this new scheme
> > > > is that drain operations are now migration safe.
> > > >
> > > > There was no observed performance degradation vs. the previous scheme.
> > > > Both netperf and hackbench were run in parallel to triggering the
> > > > __drain_all_pages(NULL, true) code path around ~100 times per second.
> > > > The new scheme performs a bit better (~5%), although the important point
> > > > here is there are no performance regressions vs. the previous mechanism.
> > > > Per-cpu lists draining happens only in slow paths.
> > > >
> > > > Minchan Kim tested this independently and reported;
> > > >
> > > > My workload is not NOHZ CPUs but run apps under heavy memory
> > > > pressure so they goes to direct reclaim and be stuck on
> > > > drain_all_pages until work on workqueue run.
> > > >
> > > > unit: nanosecond
> > > > max(dur) avg(dur) count(dur)
> > > > 166713013 487511.77786438033 1283
> > > >
> > > > From traces, system encountered the drain_all_pages 1283 times and
> > > > worst case was 166ms and avg was 487us.
> > > >
> > > > The other problem was alloc_contig_range in CMA. The PCP draining
> > > > takes several hundred millisecond sometimes though there is no
> > > > memory pressure or a few of pages to be migrated out but CPU were
> > > > fully booked.
> > > >
> > > > Your patch perfectly removed those wasted time.
> > >
> > > I'm not getting a sense here of the overall effect upon userspace
> > > performance. As Thomas said last year in
> > > https://lkml.kernel.org/r/87v92sgt3n.ffs@tglx
> > >
> > > : The changelogs and the cover letter have a distinct void vs. that which
> > > : means this is just another example of 'scratch my itch' changes w/o
> > > : proper justification.
> > >
> > > Is there more to all of this than itchiness and if so, well, you know
> > > the rest ;)
> > >
> >
> > I think Minchan's example is clear-cut. The draining operation can take
> > an arbitrary amount of time waiting for the workqueue to run on each CPU
> > and can cause severe delays under reclaim or CMA and the patch fixes
> > it. Maybe most users won't even notice but I bet phone users do if a
> > camera app takes too long to open.
> >
> > The first paragraphs was written by Nicolas and I did not want to modify
> > it heavily and still put his Signed-off-by on it. Maybe it could have
> > been clearer though because "too busy" is vague when the actual intent
> > is to avoid interfering with RT tasks. Does this sound better to you?
> >
> > Some setups, notably NOHZ_FULL CPUs, may be running realtime or
> > latency-sensitive applications that cannot tolerate interference
> > due to per-cpu drain work queued by __drain_all_pages(). Introduce
> > a new mechanism to remotely drain the per-cpu lists. It is made
> > possible by remotely locking 'struct per_cpu_pages' new per-cpu
> > spinlocks. This has two advantages, the time to drain is more
> > predictable and other unrelated tasks are not interrupted.
> >
> > You raise a very valid point with Thomas' mail and it is a concern that
> > the local_lock is no longer strictly local. We still need preemption to
> > be disabled between the percpu lookup and the lock acquisition but that
> > can be done with get_cpu_var() to make the scope clear.
>
> This isn't going to work in RT :(
>
> get_cpu_var() disables preemption hampering RT spinlock use. There is more to
> it in Documentation/locking/locktypes.rst.
>

Bah, you're right. A helper that called preempt_disable() on !RT
and migrate_disable() on RT would work although similar to local_lock
with a different name. I'll look on Monday to see how the code could be
restructured to always have the get_cpu_var() call immediately before the
lock acquisition. Once that is done, I'll look what sort of helper that
"disables preempt/migration, lookup pcp structure, acquire lock, enable
preempt/migration". It's effectively the magic trick that local_lock uses
to always lock the right pcpu lock but we want the spinlock semantics
for remote drain.

--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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