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    SubjectRe: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off
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    On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 16:11 +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
    > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:58:10AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
    > > On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 15:29 +0200, Greg KH wrote:
    > > > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 03:23:03PM +0200, Christoph Lameter
    > > > wrote:
    > > > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > > I know we're all really hungry for some in-person meetups and
    > > > > > discussions, but at least for LPC, Kernel Summit, and
    > > > > > Maintainer's Summit, we're going to have to wait for another
    > > > > > year,
    > > > >
    > > > > Well now that we are vaccinated: Can we still change it?
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > Speak for yourself, remember that Europe and other parts of the
    > > > world are not as "flush" with vaccines as the US currently is :(
    > >
    > > The rollout is accelerating in Europe. At least in Germany, I know
    > > people younger than me are already vaccinated. I think by the end
    > > of September the situation will be better ... especially if the EU
    > > and US agree on this air bridge (and the US actually agrees to let
    > > EU people in).
    > >
    > > One of the things Plumbers is thinking of is having a meetup at
    > > what was OSS EU but which is now in Seattle. The Maintainer's
    > > summit could do the same thing. We couldn't actually hold Plumbers
    > > in Seattle because the hotels still had masks and distancing
    > > requirements for events that effectively precluded the
    > > collaborative aspects of microconferences, but evening events will
    > > be governed by local protocols, rather than the Hotel, which are
    > > already more relaxed.
    >
    > Umm. Let's remember that the vaccines are 33-93% effective [1],
    > which means that there's approximately a 100% certainty that at least
    > one person arriving at the event from a trans-atlantic flight has
    > been exposed to someone who has the virus. I'm not convinced that
    > holding a "more relaxed protocol" event is a great idea.

    Well, I'm not going to get into a debate over the effectiveness of the
    current vaccines. I will say that all conferences have to now
    recognize that a sizeable proportion of former attendees will have
    fears about travelling and therefore remote components are going to be
    a fixture of conferences going forward.

    However, while we should accommodate them, we can't let these fears
    override people willing to take the risk and meet in person.

    James


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