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SubjectRe: [PATCH 15/18] irqchip/apple-aic: Add support for the Apple Interrupt Controller
On 08/02/2021 20.36, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2021 10:29:23 +0000,
> Arnd Bergmann <> wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 10:25 AM Marc Zyngier <> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Feb 2021 20:39:48 +0000, Hector Martin <> wrote:
>>>> +{
>>>> + return readl(ic->base + reg);
>>> Please consider using the _relaxed accessors, as I don't think any of
>>> these interacts with memory (apart from IPIs, of course).
>> MSI interrupts require serializing with DMA, so at the minimum I think there
>> needs to be something that ensures that DMA from device into memory
>> has completed before delivering the completion interrupt to a driver. This
>> may already be implied when the AIC is entered, but this is hard to know
>> without actual hardware specs.
> If there is a sync with memory required, it should happen at the point
> where it is Acked, not when masked/unmasked or anything else. And
> given that you want to sync with an external agent (the DMA producer),
> the DMB generated by readl won't save you, as it only orders CPU
> accesses AFAICT.

Found an doc that talks about this, but then... how does the current
Linux code work anyway for normal use cases?

That says dmb is not enough for DMA-control to DMA-data dependencies due
to speculation, which is what we have here and the situation I described
(with an IRQ along the way, but that's irrelevant). But that's what
readl does: a read followed by a dmb(oshld) followed by a control
dependency (but that needs an isb to take effect). How does this not
break drivers that read DMA-accessed memory after a readl of a status
register? I thought that was the point of the non-relaxed functions.

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