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SubjectRe: [PATCH 2/2] mm: memcg: add a new MEMCG_UPDATE_BATCH
Hi Shakeel,

On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 04:47:33PM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 6:35 AM Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > When profiling memory cgroup involved benchmarking, status update
> > sometimes take quite some CPU cycles. Current MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH
> > is used for both charging and statistics/events updating, and is
> > set to 32, which may be good for accuracy of memcg charging, but
> > too small for stats update which causes concurrent access to global
> > stats data instead of per-cpu ones.
> >
> > So handle them differently, by adding a new bigger batch number
> > for stats updating, while keeping the value for charging (though
> > comments in memcontrol.h suggests to consider a bigger value too)
> >
> > The new batch is set to 512, which considers 2MB huge pages (512
> > pages), as the check logic mostly is:
> >
> > if (x > BATCH), then skip updating global data
> >
> > so it will save 50% global data updating for 2MB pages
> >
> > Following are some performance data with the patch, against
> > v5.11-rc1, on several generations of Xeon platforms. Each category
> > below has several subcases run on different platform, and only the
> > worst and best scores are listed:
> >
> > fio: +2.0% ~ +6.8%
> > will-it-scale/malloc: -0.9% ~ +6.2%
> > will-it-scale/page_fault1: no change
> > will-it-scale/page_fault2: +13.7% ~ +26.2%
> >
> > One thought is it could be dynamically calculated according to
> > memcg limit and number of CPUs, and another is to add a periodic
> > syncing of the data for accuracy reason similar to vmstat, as
> > suggested by Ying.
> >
>
> I am going to push back on this change. On a large system where jobs
> can run on any available cpu, this will totally mess up the stats
> (which is actually what happens on our production servers). These
> stats are used for multiple purposes like debugging or understanding
> the memory usage of the job or doing data analysis.

Thanks for sharing the usage case, and I agree it will bring more
trouble for debugging and analyzing.

Though we lack real world load, but the micro benchmarks do show
obvious benefits, 0day rebot reported a 43.4% improvement for
vm-scalability lru-shm case, and it is up to +60% against 5.11-rc1.

The memory cgroup stats updating hotspots has been on our radar
for a long time, which could be seen in the perf profile data.

So I am wondering if we could make the batch a configurable knob,
so that it can benefit workload without need for accurate stats.

One further thought is, there are quite some "BATCH" number in
kernel for perf-cpu/global data updating, maybe we can add a
global flag 'sysctl_need_accurate_stats' for
if (sysctl_need_accurate_stats)
batch = SMALLER_BATCH
else
batch = BIGGER_BATCH


Thanks,
Feng


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