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SubjectRe: [RFC PATCH v2] tick: Make tick_periodic() check for missing ticks
On 3/15/20 7:43 PM, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 3/15/20 10:20 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 02:39:29PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
>>> The tick_periodic() function is used at the beginning part of the
>>> bootup process for time keeping while the other clock sources are
>>> being initialized.
>>> The current code assumes that all the timer interrupts are handled in
>>> a timely manner with no missing ticks. That is not actually true. Some
>>> ticks are missed and there are some discrepancies between the tick time
>>> (jiffies) and the timestamp reported in the kernel log. Some systems,
>>> however, are more prone to missing ticks than the others. In the extreme
>>> case, the discrepancy can actually cause a soft lockup message to be
>>> printed by the watchdog kthread. For example, on a Cavium ThunderX2
>>> Sabre arm64 system:
>>> [ 25.496379] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#14 stuck for 22s!
>>> On that system, the missing ticks are especially prevalent during the
>>> smp_init() phase of the boot process. With an instrumented kernel,
>>> it was found that it took about 24s as reported by the timestamp for
>>> the tick to accumulate 4s of time.
>>> Investigation and bisection done by others seemed to point to the
>>> commit 73f381660959 ("arm64: Advertise mitigation of Spectre-v2, or
>>> lack thereof") as the culprit. It could also be a firmware issue as
>>> new firmware was promised that would fix the issue.
>>> To properly address this problem, we cannot assume that there will
>>> be no missing tick in tick_periodic(). This function is now modified
>>> to follow the example of tick_do_update_jiffies64() by using another
>>> reference clock to check for missing ticks. Since the watchdog timer
>>> uses running_clock(), it is used here as the reference. With this patch
>>> applied, the soft lockup problem in the arm64 system is gone and tick
>>> time tracks much more closely to the timestamp time.
>>> Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <>
>> Since this patch is in linux-next, roughly 10% of my x86 and x86_64
>> qemu emulation boots are stalling. Typical log:
>> [ 0.002016] smpboot: Total of 1 processors activated (7576.40 BogoMIPS)
>> [ 0.002016] devtmpfs: initialized
>> [ 0.002016] clocksource: jiffies: mask: 0xffffffff max_cycles: 0xffffffff, max_idle_ns: 1911260446275000 ns
>> [ 0.002016] futex hash table entries: 256 (order: 3, 32768 bytes, linear)
>> [ 0.002016] xor: measuring software checksum speed
>> another:
>> [ 0.002653] Freeing SMP alternatives memory: 44K
>> [ 0.002653] smpboot: CPU0: Intel Westmere E56xx/L56xx/X56xx (IBRS update) (family: 0x6, model: 0x2c, stepping: 0x1)
>> [ 0.002653] Performance Events: unsupported p6 CPU model 44 no PMU driver, software events only.
>> [ 0.002653] rcu: Hierarchical SRCU implementation.
>> [ 0.002653] smp: Bringing up secondary CPUs ...
>> [ 0.002653] x86: Booting SMP configuration:
>> [ 0.002653] .... node #0, CPUs: #1
>> [ 0.000000] smpboot: CPU 1 Converting physical 0 to logical die 1
>> ... and then there is silence until the test aborts.
>> This is only (or at least predominantly) seen if the system running
>> the emulation is under load.
>> Reverting this patch fixes the problem.
> I was aware that there are some problem with this patch, but it is hard
> to reproduce it. Do you have a more consistent way to reproduce it.
> When  you say under load, you mean that the host system is also busy so
> that there are a lot of vcpu preemption. Right? Could you give me the

Correct. I am able to reproduce the problem quite reliably (ie 2-3 boots
out of ~25 fail) if I run a kernel compilation in parallel, but not (or
rarely) if the system is otherwise idle.

> x86-64 .config file that you use?

Attached. It is pretty much defconfig with various debug and test options

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