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SubjectRe: [PATCH v5 2/2] mm,thp: Add experimental config option RO_EXEC_FILEMAP_HUGE_FAULT_THP
On Tue 03-09-19 08:10:15, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 02:51:50PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 03-09-19 05:22:08, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 02:14:24PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > On Mon 02-09-19 03:23:41, William Kucharski wrote:
> > > > > Add filemap_huge_fault() to attempt to satisfy page
> > > > > faults on memory-mapped read-only text pages using THP when possible.
> > > >
> > > > This deserves much more description of how the thing is implemented and
> > > > expected to work. For one thing it is not really clear to me why you
> > > > need CONFIG_RO_EXEC_FILEMAP_HUGE_FAULT_THP at all. You need a support
> > > > from the filesystem anyway. So who is going to enable/disable this
> > > > config?
> > >
> > > There are definitely situations in which enabling this code will crash
> > > the kernel. But we want to get filesystems to a point where they can
> > > start working on their support for large pages. So our workaround is
> > > to try to get the core pieces merged under a CONFIG_I_KNOW_WHAT_IM_DOING
> > > flag and let people play with it. Then continue to work on the core
> > > to eliminate those places that are broken.
> >
> > I am not sure I understand. Each fs has to opt in to the feature
> > anyway. If it doesn't then there should be no risk of regression, right?
> > I do not expect any fs would rush an implementation in while not being
> > sure about the correctness. So how exactly does a config option help
> > here.
>
> Filesystems won't see large pages unless they've opted into them.
> But there's a huge amount of page-cache work that needs to get done
> before this can be enabled by default. For example, truncate() won't
> work properly.
>
> Rather than try to do all the page cache work upfront, then wait for the
> filesystems to catch up, we want to get some basics merged. Since we've
> been talking about this for so long without any movement in the kernel
> towards actual support, this felt like a good way to go.
>
> We could, of course, develop the entire thing out of tree, but that's
> likely to lead to pain and anguish.

Then I would suggest mentioning all this in the changelog so that the
overall intention is clear. It is also up to you fs developers to find a
consensus on how to move forward. I have brought that up mostly because
I really hate seeing new config options added due to shortage of
confidence in the code. That really smells like working around standard
code quality inclusion process.

--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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