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SubjectRe: Is: Default governor regardless of cpuidle driver Was: [PATCH v2] cpuidle-haltpoll: vcpu hotplug support
On 8/29/19 6:42 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 29/08/2019 19:16, Joao Martins wrote:
>> On 8/29/19 4:10 PM, Joao Martins wrote:
>>> When cpus != maxcpus cpuidle-haltpoll will fail to register all vcpus
>>> past the online ones and thus fail to register the idle driver.
>>> This is because cpuidle_add_sysfs() will return with -ENODEV as a
>>> consequence from get_cpu_device() return no device for a non-existing
>>> CPU.
>>> Instead switch to cpuidle_register_driver() and manually register each
>>> of the present cpus through cpuhp_setup_state() callback and future
>>> ones that get onlined. This mimmics similar logic that intel_idle does.
>>> Fixes: fa86ee90eb11 ("add cpuidle-haltpoll driver")
>>> Signed-off-by: Joao Martins <>
>>> Signed-off-by: Boris Ostrovsky <>
>>> ---
>> While testing the above, I found out another issue on the haltpoll series.
>> But I am not sure what is best suited to cpuidle framework, hence requesting
>> some advise if below is a reasonable solution or something else is preferred.
>> Essentially after haltpoll governor got introduced and regardless of the cpuidle
>> driver the default governor is gonna be haltpoll for a guest (given haltpoll
>> governor doesn't get registered for baremetal). Right now, for a KVM guest, the
>> idle governors have these ratings:
>> * ladder -> 10
>> * teo -> 19
>> * menu -> 20
>> * haltpoll -> 21
>> * ladder + nohz=off -> 25
>> When a guest is booted with MWAIT and intel_idle is probed and sucessfully
>> registered, we will end up with a haltpoll governor being used as opposed to
>> 'menu' (which used to be the default case). This would prevent IIUC that other
>> C-states get used other than poll_state (state 0) and state 1.
>> Given that haltpoll governor is largely only useful with a cpuidle-haltpoll
>> it doesn't look reasonable to be the default? What about using haltpoll governor
>> as default when haltpoll idle driver registers or modload.
> Are the guest and host kernel the same? IOW compiled with the same
> kernel config?
You just need to toggle this (regardless off CONFIG_HALTPOLL_CPUIDLE):


And *if you are a KVM guest* it will be the default (unless using nohz=off in
which case ladder gets the highest rating -- see the listing right above).

Host will just behave differently because the haltpoll governor is checking if
it is running as kvm guest, and only registering in that case.

>> My idea to achieve the above would be to decrease the rating to 9 (before the
>> lowest rated governor) and retain old defaults before haltpoll. Then we would
>> allow a cpuidle driver to define a preferred governor to switch on idle driver
>> registration. Naturally all of would be ignored if overidden by
>> cpuidle.governor=.

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