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SubjectRe: [PATCH] staging: Add rtl8821ce PCIe WiFi driver
at 20:33, Greg KH <> wrote:

> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 07:54:58PM +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
>> at 19:40, Greg KH <> wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 07:24:01PM +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
>>>> The rtl8821ce can be found on many HP and Lenovo laptops.
>>>> Users have been using out-of-tree module for a while,
>>>> The new Realtek WiFi driver, rtw88, will support rtl8821ce in 2020 or
>>>> later.
>>> Where is that driver, and why is it going to take so long to get merged?
>> rtw88 is in 5.2 now, but it doesn’t support 8821ce yet.
>> They plan to add the support in 2020.
> Who is "they" and what is needed to support this device and why wait a
> full year?

“They” refers to Realtek.
It’s their plan so I can’t really answer that on behalf of Realtek.

>>>> 296 files changed, 206166 insertions(+)
>>> Ugh, why do we keep having to add the whole mess for every single one of
>>> these devices?
>> Because Realtek devices are unfortunately ubiquitous so the support is
>> better come from kernel.
> That's not the issue here. The issue is that we keep adding the same
> huge driver files to the kernel tree, over and over, with no real change
> at all. We have seen almost all of these files in other realtek
> drivers, right?

Yes. They use one single driver to support different SoCs, different
architectures and even different OSes.
That’s why it’s a mess.

> Why not use the ones we already have?

It’s virtually impossible because Realtek’s mega wifi driver uses tons of
#ifdefs, only one chip can be selected to be supported at compile time.

> But better yet, why not add proper support for this hardware and not use
> a staging driver?

Realtek plans to add the support in 2020, if everything goes well.
Meanwhile, many users of HP and Lenovo laptops are using out-of-tree
driver, some of them are stuck to older kernels because they don’t know how
to fix the driver. So I strongly think having this in kernel is beneficial
to many users, even it’s only for a year.


> thanks,
> greg k-h

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