Messages in this thread | | | From | Sami Tolvanen <> | Date | Fri, 18 Oct 2019 10:56:04 -0700 | Subject | Re: [PATCH 06/18] add support for Clang's Shadow Call Stack (SCS) |
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On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 10:42 AM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote: > (As I mentioned in the other thread, the security documentation there > doesn't fit the kernel usecase.)
True. I'll add a note about it here too.
> Without CONFIG_SHADOW_CALL_STACK_VMAP, after 128 small stack frames, > you overflow into random physmap memory even if the main stack is > vmapped... I guess you can't get around that without making the SCS > instrumentation more verbose. :/
That's correct. In our testing, 128 stack frames is nearly twice the maximum amount that's been used (on an arm64 device), and for many use cases, allocating a full page is simply too costly despite the advantages.
> Could you maybe change things so that independent of whether you have > vmapped SCS or slab-allocated SCS, the scs_corrupted() check looks at > offset 1024-8 (where it currently is for the slab-allocated case)? > That way, code won't suddenly stop working when you disable > CONFIG_SHADOW_CALL_STACK_VMAP; and especially if you use > CONFIG_SHADOW_CALL_STACK_VMAP for development and testing but disable > it in production, that would be annoying.
Yes, that's a great idea. I'll change this in v2.
Sami
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