Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 1 Mar 2018 19:41:35 +0100 (CET) | From | Thomas Gleixner <> | Subject | Re: [RFC/RFT patch 0/7] timekeeping: Unify clock MONOTONIC and clock BOOTTIME |
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On Thu, 1 Mar 2018, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:33 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote: > > > > This really needs lot of testing, documentation updates and more input from > > userspace folks to make a final decision. > > Honestly, I don't think we'd get the testing this kind of change needs > except by just trying it. > > I'm willing to merge this in the 4.17 merge window, with the > understanding that if people end up reporting issues, we may just have > to revert it all, and chalk it up to a learning experience - and add > the appropriate commentary in the kernel code about exactly what it > was that depended on that MONO/BOOT difference.
Fair enough. So we maybe just merge the first two patches and merge the cleanups and consolidation patches when we feel good enough.
I surely can queue the whole lot in next, but from PTI the experience I know how good the test coverage is. 4.14.stable would be the ideal testing ground. /me runs fast and hides
> One non-technical thing I would ask: use some other word than > "conflate". Maybe just "combine". Or better yet, "unify". > > "Conflate" technically and historically means the same thing as > combine, but has very much gathered a side meaning of "confuse". > > So yes, "conflate" is indeed about mixing or combining, but it's > typically used in the sense of a *bad* combination or mixing. So > "trying to conflate two issues" means "trying to mix two issues that > are not the same into one". > > So "unify" and "conflate" mean both the same thing and almost exactly > the opposite at the same time. > > And yes, you will find dictionaries (and linguists) that hold purely > to the old meaning. As always, there are fogeys that can't get over > the fact that meanings meander and change.
I'm old enough to have learned that conflate means unify or combine, but I'm still not old enough to be stubborn about it :)
Thanks,
tglx
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