Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 1 Feb 2018 14:29:09 +0100 | From | Peter Zijlstra <> | Subject | Re: asm-generic: Disallow no-op mb() for SMP systems |
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On Thu, Feb 01, 2018 at 09:27:50PM +0900, Stafford Horne wrote: > I tried to clarify some of this in the spec v1.2 [0] which help formalize some of > the techniques we used for the SMP implementation. Its probably not perfect, > but I added a section "10. Multicore support" and tried to clarify some things > in section 7 on Atomicity. But it seems I dont cover exactly what are are > mentioning here. In general: > > 1 Secondary cores have memory snooping enabled meaning that any write to a > cached address will cause the cache line to be invalidated. > 2 l.swa (store atomic word) implies a store buffer flush.
What about l.lwa? Can that observe 'old' values, or rather, miss values stuck in a remote store buffer?
This will then cause the first l.swa to fail, which, per the above, would then sync things up? Which means you get that one extra merry-go-round.
> 3 l.msync is used to flush the store buffer > > Also, during the IPI controller review [1] Marc Z asked many similar questions. > I believe he was ok in the end. > > Anyway, > Thanks for thanks for spotting the issue here. For some reason I remember we > did have an l.msync for our mb(). Let me think about and test out this patch > (and the fix to actually define mb) to see if anything comes up. > > Also, I haven't seen any implementations that use WOM. Stefan might know better.
So if the strong model has a store buffer, as I think the above says, then it is _NOT_ correct for l.msync to be treated as a NOP, it _must_ flush the store buffer.
At which point I think your 'strong' model is basically TSO. So it would be very good to get that spelled out somewhere.
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