Messages in this thread | | | Date | Mon, 8 Oct 2018 12:04:36 -0700 | From | Josh Triplett <> | Subject | Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] code-of-conduct: Strip the enforcement paragraph pending community discussion |
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On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 02:15:25PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > On 6 Oct 2018, at 17:37, James Bottomley wrote: > > Significant concern has been expressed about the responsibilities > > outlined in > > the enforcement clause of the new code of conduct. Since there is > > concern > > that this becomes binding on the release of the 4.19 kernel, strip the > > enforcement clauses to give the community time to consider and debate > > how this > > should be handled. > > Even in the places where I don't agree with the discussion about what our > code of conduct should be, I love that we're having it. Removing the > enforcement clause basically goes back to the way things were. We'd be > recognizing that we know issues happen, and explicitly stating that when > serious events do happen, the community as a whole isn't committing to > helping. > > It's true there are a lot of questions about how the community resolves > problems and holds each other accountable for maintaining any code of > conduct. I think the enforcement section leaves us the room we need to > continue discussions and still make it clear that we're making an effort to > shift away from the harsh discussions in the past.
Emphatically seconded.
I absolutely agree that we should to work on the enforcement section over time; for instance, I agree that a dedicated team (ideally with some training) would be better than vesting this in a technical decision-making body.
But I agree with Chris that we should not remove this entirely. And I don't think there's any special significance to this being in the 4.19 release as compared to an -rc or git HEAD.
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