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SubjectRe: [RFC 1/1] shiftfs: uid/gid shifting bind mount
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On Mon, 2017-02-06 at 16:52 -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 07:18:16AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-02-06 at 09:50 -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 10:46:23PM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > Yes, I know the problem. However, I believe most current linux
> > > > filesystems no longer guarantee stable, for the lifetime of the
> > > > file, inode numbers. The usual docker container root is
> > > > overlayfs, which, similarly doesn't support stable inode
> > > > numbers. I see the odd complaint about docker with overlayfs
> > > > having unstable inode numbers, but none seems to have any
> > > > serious repercussions.
> > >
> > > Um, no. Most current linux file systems *do* guarantee stable
> > > inode numbers. For one thing, NFS would break horribly if you
> > > didn't have stable inode numbers. Never mind applications which
> > > depend on POSIX semantics. And you wouldn't be able to save
> > > games in rogue or nethack, either. :-)
> >
> > I believe that's why we have the superblock export operations to
> > manufacture unique filehandles in the absence of inode number
> > stability.
>
> Where did you hear that?
>
> I'd expect an NFS client to handle non-unique filehandles
> better than non-unique inode numbers. I believe our client will -EIO
> on encountering an inode number change (see
> nfs_check_inode_attributes().)
>
> See also https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5661#section-10.3.4.

Could you clarify your point a bit further, please? Both the
check_inode_attributes() code and section 10.3.4 are talking about
fileids, which are the things that are constructed in the export_ops
... admittedly a lot of fileid_types are based on inode numbers, but
several aren't. For those that aren't, I believe NFS doesn't care
about the underlying inode number of the exported file.

James

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