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SubjectRe: [patch 4/5] PTP: add PTP_SYS_OFFSET emulation via cross timestamps infrastructure
2017-01-20 15:23+0100, Paolo Bonzini:
> On 20/01/2017 15:02, Radim Krcmar wrote:
>> 2017-01-20 14:36+0100, Paolo Bonzini:
>>> On 20/01/2017 14:07, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 01:55:27PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20/01/2017 13:20, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>>>> kernel/time/timekeeping.c | 79 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not leave this in drivers/ptp/ptp_chardev.c?
>>>>
>>>> timekeeper_lock
>>>
>>> Why does emulate_ptp_sys_offset need it, if the current PTP_SYS_OFFSET
>>> code doesn't? Is the latency acceptable (considering this is a raw spin
>>> lock) or is there a seqlock that we can use instead (such as tk_core.seq
>>> like in get_device_system_crosststamp)?
>>
>> The spinlock prevents writers to take the tk_core.seq, which means that
>> time cannot be changed during that.
>>
>> The simplest alternative would be to use tk_core.seq for all our reads,
>> but that would increse the chance of re-reading, even infinitely.
>
> How much? If a hypercall takes 1 microsecond, and PTP_MAX_SAMPLES is
> 25, we should be done in less than 50 microseconds. If update_wall-time
> is called with 250 Hz frequency (sounds like a lot), that's still 4000
> microseconds so the probability of even 3-4 consecutive retries should
> be very low.

You are right, I was overestimating the worst case.
Host/guest preemption (1000 Hz) will also force a re-read, but both of
these diminishing probabilities and a tendency to align.

>> But we don't need to read everything with the same time base -- if the
>> time is changed (by NTP/user/...) between our reads, then the value will
>> be off, but if writer took tk_core.seq just to accumulate current time,
>> then the time after accumulation stays the same and it would work as if
>> we had the tk_core.seq for the whole time.
>
> You mean only check seqlock separately for each sample, but restart the
> entire loop upon changes to cs_was_changed_seq or clock_was_set_seq?
> That would work too.

I wanted to accept that our measuerements can be imprecise and just have
the seqlock for each sample. It should not make a difference without
misconfiguration and we can't do anything about a malicious root anyway.

Thanks.

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