Messages in this thread | | | From | "Rafael J. Wysocki" <> | Subject | Re: [Query] Preemption (hogging) of the work handler | Date | Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:49:38 +0200 |
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On Monday, July 18, 2016 01:01:34 PM Jan Kara wrote: > On Thu 14-07-16 15:12:51, Viresh Kumar wrote: > > On 14-07-16, 16:12, Jan Kara wrote: > > > Exactly. Calling printk() from certain parts of the kernel (like scheduler > > > code or timer code) has been always unsafe because printk itself uses these > > > parts and so it can lead to deadlocks. That's why printk_deffered() has > > > been introduced as you mention below. > > > > > > And with sync printk the above deadlock doesn't trigger only by chance - if > > > there happened to be a waiter on console_sem while we suspend, the same > > > deadlock would trigger because up(&console_sem) will try to wake him up and > > > the warning in timekeeping code will cause recursive printk. > > > > > > So I think your patch doesn't really address the real issue - it only > > > works around the particular WARN_ON(timekeeping_enabled) warning but if > > > there was a different warning in timekeeping code which would trigger, it > > > has a potential for causing recursive printk deadlock (and indeed we had > > > such issues previously - see e.g. 504d58745c9c "timer: Fix lock inversion > > > between hrtimer_bases.lock and scheduler locks"). > > > > > > So there are IMHO two issues here worth looking at: > > > > > > 1) I didn't find how a wakeup would would lead to calling to ktime_get() in > > > the current upstream kernel or even current RT kernel. Maybe this is a > > > problem specific to the 3.10 kernel you are using? If yes, we don't have to > > > do anything for current upstream AFAIU. > > > > I haven't checked that earlier, but I see the path in both 3.10 and mainline. > > > > vprintk_emit > > -> wake_up_process > > -> try_to_wake_up > > -> ttwu_queue > > -> ttwu_do_activate > > -> ttwu_activate > > -> activate_task > > -> enqueue_task (sched/core.c) > > -> enqueue_task_rt (rt.c) > > -> enqueue_rt_entity > > -> __enqueue_rt_entity > > -> inc_rt_tasks > > -> inc_rt_group > > -> start_rt_bandwidth > > -> start_bandwidth_timer > > -> __hrtimer_start_range_ns > > -> ktime_get() > > Yeah, you are right. > > > > If I just missed how wakeup can call into ktime_get() in current upstream, > > > there is another question: > > > > > > 2) Is it OK that printk calls wakeup so late during suspend? > > > > To clarify again to everybody, we are talking about the place where all > > non-boot CPUs are already hot-unplugged and the last running one has > > disabled interrupts. > > > > I believe that we can't do migration at all now, right? What will we get by > > calling wake_up_process() now anyway ? > > As I already wrote to Rafael, wake_up_process() will change the process > state to TASK_RUNNING so that it can run after we resume from suspend. > > But seeing that the same problem is in upstream I guess what Sergey did > makes more sense if it works for you. If Sergey's fix does not work for you > due to too many messages being printed during device suspend, then we will > have to try something else...
Which is exactly my point. :-)
Thanks, Rafael
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