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    SubjectRe: [intel-pstate driver regression] processor frequency very high even if in idle
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    On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 1:36 AM, Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net> wrote:
    > On 2016.04.01 12:54 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
    >>On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net> wrote:
    >>> On 2106.034.01 10:45 Srinivas Pandruvada wrote:
    >>>> On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 16:06 +0200, Jörg Otte wrote:
    >>> > > > > >
    >>>>> Done. Attached the tracer.
    >>>>> For me it looks like the previous one of the failing case.
    >>>>
    >>>> The traces show that idle task is constantly running without sleep.
    >>>
    >>> No, they (at least the first one, I didn't look at the next one yet)
    >>> show that CPUs 2 and 3 are spending around 99% of their time not in state
    >>> C0.
    >
    >> How do you figure that out if I may ask? It is not so obvious to me
    >> to be honest.
    >
    > The trace was not in the form for the post processing tools, so I had
    > to manually import the trace into a spreadsheet and manually add new columns
    > calculated from the others.
    >
    > Load = mperf / tsc * 100 % = C0 time.
    > Duration (mS) = tsc / 2.5e9 * 1000
    > Note: I do not recall seeing an exact tsc for Jörg's computer, so I used
    > The 2.5 GHz from the device spec from some earlier e-mail.
    >
    > Example (formatting will likely not send O.K.):
    >
    > CPU# time core_busy scaled from to mperf aperf tsc freq load duration (ms)
    > <idle>-0 [002] 465.879451: 100 96 26 26 1826656 1826710 25062693 2500073 7.288% 10.025
    > <idle>-0 [003] 465.879484: 99 96 26 26 305796 305781 25147993 2499877 1.216% 10.059
    > <idle>-0 [000] 465.885794: 100 96 26 26 975908 975951 32434672 2500110 3.009% 12.974
    > <idle>-0 [001] 465.886898: 100 250 10 31 327356 327364 26673840 2500061 1.227% 10.670
    > <idle>-0 [002] 465.889527: 100 96 26 26 205336 205365 25133396 2500353 0.817% 10.053
    > <idle>-0 [003] 465.889555: 99 95 26 26 62544 62341 25117916 2491885 0.249% 10.047

    OK

    It could be C1 with relatively short periods spent in it.

    >> That the sample rate is ending up at ~10 Milliseconds, indicates some
    >> high frequency (>= 100Hz) events on those CPUs. Those events, apparently,
    >> take very little CPU time to complete, hence a load of about 1% on average.
    >>
    >> By the way, I can recreate the high sample rate with virtually no load
    >> on my system easy, but so far have been unable to get the high CPU
    >> frequencies observed by Jörg. I can get my system to about a target pstate of
    >> 20 where it should have remained at 16, but that is about it.
    >>
    >>> The driver is processing samples for idle task for every 10ms and
    >>> aperf/mperf are showing that we are always in turbo mode for idle task.
    >>
    >> That column pretty much always says "idle" (or swapper for my way of doing
    >> things). I have not found it to very useful as an indicator, and considerably
    >> more so since the utilization changes.
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Need to find out why idle task is not sleeping.
    >>
    >> I contend that is it.
    >
    > Why?
    >
    > Unless I misunderstood, because the trace data indicates that the those CPUs
    > are going into some deeper C stsate than C0 for most of their time.

    But how long do they stay in those states every time?

    Average residencies need to be well below 10 ms for the trace to be
    produced every 10 ms, so the question seems to be what kicks the CPUs
    out of idle states so often. On a completely idle system, that's
    highly suspicious.

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