Messages in this thread | | | Date | Mon, 21 Sep 2015 21:51:46 -0400 | From | "J. Bruce Fields" <> | Subject | Re: [RFC v7 15/41] richacl: Automatic Inheritance |
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:19:59PM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote: > 2015-09-18 20:40 GMT+02:00 J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>: > > On Sat, Sep 05, 2015 at 12:27:10PM +0200, Andreas Gruenbacher wrote: > >> Automatic Inheritance (AI) allows changes to the acl of a directory to > > In the above "file" sometimes means "any object" and somethings "a > > non-directory". I can sort it out, but more consistent terminology > > would help. > > Okay, I'll fix it. > > >> Linux does not have a way of creating files without setting the file > >> permission bits, so all files created inside a directory with > >> RICHACL_AUTO_INHERIT set will have the RICHACL_PROTECTED flag set. This > >> effectively disables Automatic Inheritance. > >> > >> Protocols which support creating files without specifying permissions > >> can explicitly clear the RICHACL_PROTECTED flag after creating a file > >> and reset the file masks to "undo" applying the create mode; see > >> richacl_compute_max_masks(). They should set the RICHACL_DEFAULTED > >> flag. This is a workaround; a mechanism that would allow a process to > >> indicate to the kernel to ignore the create mode when there are > >> inherited permissions would fix this problem. > > > > Also, as you know: current nfsd has no way to create files without > > setting permissions. And if we were to implement that it's unclear how > > many clients would actually use it (Windows clients are rare). And of > > course Samba doesn't have the interfaces it would need. > > > > I think we should just drop this for now. The rest of the richacl stuff > > is still useful without it. > > Samba will hack around it and adjust the ACL after the create; that's > still better than not having Automatic Inheritance. Windows uses AI > all the time so AI is more important for Samba than for NFSv4.
Oh, OK, that makes sense. Even just giving them a place to store the bits would be better than nothing. So, ignore my objection there....
--b.
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