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SubjectRe: [regression] x86/signal/64: Fix SS handling for signals delivered to 64-bit programs breaks dosemu
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On 08/13/15 16:18, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> The _only_ thing that matters is that something broke.
> To clarify: things like test programs etc don't matter. Real
> applications, used by real users. That's what regressions cover. If
> you have a workflow that isn't just some random kernel test thing, and
> you depend on it, and we break it, the kernel is supposed to fix it.
>
> There are some (very few) exceptions.
>
> If it's a security issue, we may not be able to "fix" it, because
> other concerns can obviously take precedence.
>
> Also, sometimes the reports come in way too late - if you were running
> some stable distro kernel for several years, and updated, and notice a
> change that happened four years ago and modern applications now rely
> on the _new_ behavior, we may not be able to fix the regression any
> more.
>
> But no, "it was an unintentional kernel bug and clearly just stupid
> crap code, and we fixed it and now the kernel is much better and
> cleaner" is not a valid reason for regressions. We'll go back to the
> stupid and crap code if necessary, however much that may annoy us.
>
> For an example of the kind of things we may have to do, see commits
>
> 64f371bc3107 autofs: make the autofsv5 packet file descriptor use
> a packetized pipe
> 9883035ae7ed pipes: add a "packetized pipe" mode for writing
>
> and just wonder at the insanity. That's the kinds of things that
> happen when one application had actively worked around a bug in
> compatibility handling, and then trying to "fix" that bug just caused
> another application to break instead.
>
> Linus
Is there a way to temporally confine the bad crap code just to the
applications that depend on it, or does a userspace app latching onto
bad behavior effectively lock down the abi for the future?

I know that some features in the kernel get deprecated over a process
(devfs for example) once userspace is given an alternative...would there
be a process like that to deal with userspace code that is pinning a
piece of crap in the kernel?


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