Messages in this thread | | | Date | 20 Apr 2015 16:26:29 -0400 | From | "George Spelvin" <> | Subject | Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 |
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> It's used everywhere, on servers, > embedded systems, desktops, you name it. All languages have bindings > for it, and it's the underpinning of a modern Linux stack.
Since when? D-bus is some GUI depoendency. On my console-only servers, it's not needed, and not installed:
# dpkg-query -s libdbus-1-3 dbus dpkg-query: package 'libdbus-1-3' is not installed and no information is available dpkg-query: package 'dbus' is not installed and no information is available # dpkg-query -l \*dbus\* dpkg-query: no packages found matching *dbus*
It's also not needed on a basic GUI system. Firefox complains about saving preferences if it's not running, but runs just fine:
$ pgrep dbus $ ps 6570 19644 25779 29487 29492 PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 6570 ? Sl 1:48 iceweasel 19644 ? Sl 0:29 /usr/bin/vlc -I qt4 25779 ? Sl 0:16 rhythmbox 29487 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/bin/gnumeric 29492 ? Sl 0:01 /usr/bin/gimp $
Richard Weinberger wrote: > kdbus will be a major hard-dependency for every non-trivial userland. > Like cgroups...
and
> We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want to have busybox > as userland. That's a fact.
My daily desktop also has # CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set
And no systemd. Udev actually does something useful, so I have it on my desktop, but I have machines with a static /dev instead.
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