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    SubjectRe: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1
    On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:42:17PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
    > > I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the
    > > meta-data.
    >
    > You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's
    > an option :)

    OK, _that_ argument needs to be stomped out. It had been used before,
    and it was a deliberate scam. There is no such thing as optional kernel
    interface, especially when udev/dbus/systemd crowd is nearby. We'd been
    through that excuse before; remember how devtmpfs was pushed in as "optional"?

    This is a huge red flag. On the level of "I need your account information
    to transfer $200M you might have inherited from my deceased client".

    Just to recap how it went the last time around: Kay kept pushing his piece of
    code into the tree, claiming that it was optional, that nobody who doesn't
    like it has to enable it, so what's the problem? OK, in it went. And pretty
    soon udev (maintained by the same... meticulously honorable person) had
    stopped working on the kernels that didn't have that enabled.

    We had been there before. To paraphrase another... meticulously honorable
    person, "if you didn't want something relied upon, why have you put it into the
    kernel?" Said person is on the record as having no problem whatsoever with
    adding dependencies to the bottom of userland stack.

    IMO either it's OK without "if you don't like it, don't enable it", or it
    should not be merged at all.


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