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SubjectRe: [PATCH] perf: Fallback to JIT support for mmap'd non-ELF binaries.


On Fri, 20 Nov 2015, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:45:45PM +0000, Brian Robbins wrote:
>
> > Thank you for the feedback. The file format is similar to PE, but is
> > not identical. So, we would be implementing something very scoped,
> > which doesn't feel right to me.
>
> *groan* you just had to go and invent yet another executable format,
> right? :-)
Nah, it just has some extra stuff in it that makes this less desirable -
it's technically PE, but anyway.
>
> > I am interested in the new JIT support, however my understanding from
> > the information that I've read is that it requires kernel support in
> > 4.x, though I can't seem to find where I read that. I want to make
> > sure that this works on older kernels (3.x) as well.
>
> As I think Stephane explained, this is only required if you need to
> match up kernel and userspace timestamps, which is important for dynamic
> code generation, less so for static code in a weird format.

Yes, agreed.

>
> So what the new JIT stuff does is online write 'fake' ELF files with
> symbol sections and (optionally?) dwarf debug info for line numbers.
>
> Since you don't dynamically generate code, you can offline generate
> these ELF files and redirect the symbol parser bits to that (we already
> look for debug ELF files in various locations), or...
>
> > The reason I went with this approach is because it is simple for
> > runtimes to implement and has no requirement that perf understand the
> > file format. I am open to feedback if there is a preferred solution
> > that would still work for older kernels as well.
>
> Since, someone somewhere needs to go parse this funny new file format
> anyhow to either generate /tmp files or fake ELF files or whatever, you
> might as well put that decoder in perf?
>
> Or just ship these fake ELF files in /usr/lib/debug/ or whatever the
> 'right' location for the distro at hand is.
>

This seems like a reasonable approach.

Stephane, are your changes available for public consumption? Last I
recall, the patches were still in review.

Thanks.
-Brian


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