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SubjectRe: [PATCH v3] PCI: rework new_id interface for known vendor/device values
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:39:36AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 16:45 -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 09:32:59PM -0400, Bandan Das wrote:
> > >
> > > While using the new_id interface, the user can unintentionally feed
> > > incorrect values if the driver static table has a matching entry.
> > > This is possible since only the device and vendor fields are
> > > mandatory and the rest are optional. As a result, store_new_id
> > > will fill in default values that are then passed on to the driver
> > > and can have unintended consequences.
> > >
> > > As an example, consider the ixgbe driver and the 82599EB network card :
> > > echo "8086 10fb" > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ixgbe/new_id
> > >
> > > This will pass a driver_data value of 0 to the driver whereas
> > > the index 0 in ixgbe actually points to a different set of card
> > > operations.
> > >
> > > This change returns an error if the user attempts to add a dynid for
> > > a vendor/device combination for which a static entry already exists.
> > > However, if the user intentionally wants a different set of values,
> > > she must provide all the 7 fields and that will be accepted.
> > >
> > > In KVM/device assignment scenario, the user might want
> > > to bind a device back to the host driver by writing to new_id
> > > and trip on a possible null pointer dereference.
> >
> > I don't understand this last KVM comment. If this patch fixes a null
> > pointer dereference, it must be because we return -EEXIST instead of
> > calling the driver's probe method.
>
> Right, the NULL pointer dereference is because drivers implicitly trust
> the driver_data field supplied to their probe function. This patch
> prevents the user from supplying a "shorthand" vendor/device new_id that
> would conflict with an existing static ID by returning -EEXIST on the
> new_id update. This is not really a KVM problem, but prevention of a
> user error for the new_id interface; there is no reason for the user to
> add a new_id that duplicates an existing ID unless they want to modify
> the extended fields.

Yep, this all makes sense. I think I'll just drop the KVM paragraph
from the changelog because the problem isn't KVM-specific.

> > I know you didn't add the new_id mechanism, and this patch makes it safer
> > than it was before, but I'm uneasy about it in general. Most drivers do
> > not validate the driver_data value. They assume it came out of the
> > id_table supplied by the driver and is therefore trustworthy. But new_id
> > is a loophole that allows a user (hopefully only root) to pass arbitrary
> > junk to the driver.
>
> The sysfs files are only accessible to root by default. Your uneasiness
> seems to be the new_id mechanism in general. It is a gap that drivers
> implicitly trust a field that can be supplied by the user. I believe
> there's a test in the code somewhere that verifies that device_data at
> least matches an existing device_data as a small sanity check. This
> patch closes another gap by disallowing new_ids that are not fully
> specified to supersede an existing entry.

Yep, exactly. This definitely makes it better than it was before.

> > I wonder if the device assignment machinery should be more integrated into
> > the PCI core instead of trying to be "just another driver." It seems like
> > we're doing a lot of work to try to get the driver binding mechanism to do
> > what we need for device assignment.
>
> This problem is only tangentially related to device assignment, any PCI
> driver can hit this. Maybe in practice the reason for touching these
> files is often device assignment, but this interface pre-dates KVM. Do
> you have suggestions how device assignment could be more integrated to
> PCI core? Note that vfio is intentionally device agnostic and support
> for assignment of platform devices using vfio is being actively
> developed.

I don't have a suggestion, but I think using the driver model for this
feels a bit like putting a square peg in a round hole. A device-
agnostic driver is sort of a strange concept to begin with, and the
machinations to tweak the driver/device binding order and pass a
device back and forth between host drivers and vfio seem sort of
artificial. It feels like we're using the binding mechanism in a way
it wasn't designed for, and it's not surprising that there are issues.

> We do have a new binding mechanism awaiting review that
> tries to avoid some of the faults with the new_id/remove_id interface.
> In this case the user would not need to add a new_id and would use
> drivers_probe on both sides of the attach/re-attach.

I saw that go by, but haven't looked in detail. I'm hoping Greg pays
attention to those, since he's more of an overall driver model guy
than I am.

Bjorn


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