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    SubjectRe: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review
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    On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:17:06AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
    > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Sarah Sharp
    > <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > However, I am serious about this. Linus, you're one of the worst
    > > offenders when it comes to verbally abusing people and publicly tearing
    > > their emotions apart.
    >
    > Yes. And I do it partly (mostly) because it's who I am, and partly
    > because I honestly despise being subtle or "nice".

    "Nice", "subtle", and "polite" all seem mostly orthogonal to me.

    > The fact is, people need to know what my position on things are. And I
    > can't just say "please don't do that", because people won't listen. I
    > say "On the internet, nobody can hear you being subtle", and I mean
    > it.

    And "please don't do that" isn't very subtle.

    --b.

    >
    > And I definitely am not willing to string people along, either. I've
    > had that happen too - not telling people clearly enough that I don't
    > like their approach, they go on to re-architect something, and get
    > really upset when I am then not willing to take their work.
    >
    > Sarah, first off, I don't have that many tools at hand. Secondly, I
    > simply don't believe in being polite or politically correct. And you
    > can point at all those cultural factors where some cultures are not
    > happy with confrontation (and feel free to make it about gender too -
    > I think that's almost entirely cultural too). And please bring up
    > "cultural sensitivity" while at it. And I'll give you back that same
    > "cultural sensitivity". Please be sensitive to _my_ culture too.
    >
    > Google "management by perkele".
    >
    > Do you really want to oppress a minority? Because Finns are a minority
    > compared to almost any other country. If you want to talk cultural
    > sensitivity, I'll join you. But my culture includes cursing.
    >
    > And some of the above is written tonge-in-cheek, but all of it is also
    > serious. I really fundamentally believe that being honest and open
    > about your emotions about core/process is good. And because it's damn
    > hard to read people over email, I think you need to be *more* honest
    > and *more* open over email. I'm generally nicer in person. Not always.
    >
    > And yes, I'll happily be part of the discussion at the KS. But I think
    > you also need to be aware that your "high horse" isn't necessarily all
    > that high.
    >
    > Linus
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