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SubjectRe: [PATCH] alarmtimer: return EINVAL instead of ENOTSUPP if rtcdev doesn't exist
(10/17/13 1:05 PM), John Stultz wrote:
> On 10/14/2013 02:33 PM, wrote:
>> From: KOSAKI Motohiro <>
>> Fedora Ruby maintainer reported latest Ruby doesn't work on Fedora Rawhide
>> on ARM. (
>> Because of, commit 1c6b39ad3f (alarmtimers: Return -ENOTSUPP if no
>> RTC device is present) intruduced to return ENOTSUPP when
>> clock_get{time,res} can't find a RTC device. However it is incorrect.
>> Posix and Linux man pages agree that clock_gettime and clock_getres
>> should return EINVAL if clk_id argument is invalid. This is significant
>> different from timer_create API.
>> This patch fixes it.
> Hrm... So I feel like there is a difference here. The clockid for
> Its just that they're not supported on this specific hardware because it
> apparently lacks a RTC that has told the system it can be used as a
> wakeup device (Its actually quite likely on the hardware that the RTC
> can be a wakeup device, but that the driver is probably setting the
> wakeup flag after the RTC registered - so there is probably a driver bug
> here too).
> So I feel like in this case EINVAL isn't quite right. I'll admit it is
> somewhat new behavior, because we haven't had any clockids before that
> were dependent on the particular hardware, they either existed in a
> kernel verison or didn't.
> Would updating the manpage be a better route?


ENOTSUPP is not exported to userland. ENOTSUP (single P) and EOPNOTSUP is
valid errno (and they are same on linux), but ENOTSUPP is a kernel internal specific.

Moreover, I completely disagree your position. Both CLOCK_REALTIME_ALARM unsupported
kernel and ARM which doesn't support RTC should use the same error because application
need the same fallback.

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