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    SubjectRe: udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait()
    On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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    > which went into udev release 187 which I think corresponds to the place
    > when people started having problems, right Mauro?

    According to what I've seen, people started complaining in 182, not 187.

    See for example

    http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/13085/

    which is a thread where you were involved too..

    See also the arch linux thread:

    https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134012&p=1

    And see this email from Kay Sievers that shows that it was all known
    about and intentional in the udev camp:

    http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg185742.html

    There's a possible patch suggested here:

    http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006357.html

    but quite frankly, I am leery of the fact that the udev maintenance
    seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes
    that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.

    Having the module init path load the firmware IS THE SENSIBLE AND
    OBVIOUS THING TO DO for many cases. The fact that udev people have
    apparently unilaterally decided that it's somehow wrong is scary.

    Linus


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