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    SubjectRe: [PATCH 1/3] x86, intel: Output microcode revision

    * Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com> wrote:

    > > > This can happen if for example the BIOS somehow does not apply the right
    > > > microcode to all CPUs. It can also happen if physically different microcode
    > > > version CPUs are mixed. In theory people can mix steppings as well.
    > >
    > > In PRACTICE people WILL mix steppings as well.
    >
    > Yes exactly. I used to have a system with one P3 supporting FXSAVE
    > and other not :-) I had to fix the kernel back then to support this.
    > The system worked perfectly fine after the kernel was fixed.

    I'm not concerned about the cases where it works fine - i'm concerned
    about cases where it's not fine.

    Many years ago i had an old P3 system where i mixed steppings and it
    was not stable, it would crash after i have put some load on the
    system.

    > So the check proposed is a bad idea. It would trigger on real boxes
    > which don't have any obvious problems.

    You are quite naive about mixed stepping i have to say - mixing
    steppings was always a risk and can come with various problems:

    http://mysite.verizon.net/pchardwarelinks/mixed.htm

    Mixing processor steppings (revisions) in a dual environment doesn't
    always work as well as it should. As a rule of thumb, one stepping
    difference between two CPUs is generally acceptable. Two steppings is
    pushing it. Note that some revisions of some operating systems may be
    more forgiving than others (like WinNT) concerning mixed steppings.
    The motherboard manufacturer can also give you information about
    which mixed steppings (if any) are compatible with the motherboard.
    It's always best to buy matched pairs or to find another chip with
    the same S-Spec number. Although in many cases, finding an identical
    chip is quite difficult.

    http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/sb/cs-022150.htm

    Mixed steppings of processors are only supported with the following
    paired combinations of A1 and A2 steppings of the Intel® Itanium® 2
    Processor with up to 9 MB L3 cache, identified by the package S-Spec
    numbers (see the Intel® Itanium® 2 Processor Identification and
    Package Information table for details):

    * SL7SD and SL8CY
    * SL7ED and SL8CX
    * SL7EC and SL8CW
    * SL7EB and SL8CV
    * SL87H and SL8CU
    * SL7EF and SL8CZ

    Intel® Server Platform SR870BH2 and Intel® Server Platform SR870BN4
    fully supports mixing A1 and A2 stepping processors

    http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&objectID=c01209579&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

    While HP ProLiant servers support mixed AMD Opteron processor
    steppings within the same letter step, HP is recommending that the
    processor with the lowest stepping be installed in the Boot Strap
    Processor (BSP) slot and that the System ROM be updated to the latest
    available version. For example, an AMD Opteron 800 with Stepping C0
    can be mixed with an AMD Opteron 800 with Stepping CG .

    So displaying a non-fatal 'info' message about it would in fact be
    rather wise. Nothing scary, but we'd like to be informed.

    Thanks,

    Ingo
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