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    SubjectRe: status: establishing a PGP web of trust
    On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 01:09:44PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
    > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 10:50:24PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
    > > [1] I did check what Greg recommended in his email, but I'm not gonna
    > > wipe my complete installation (including wiping /home) unless
    > > someone can point at something indicating that there's a break-in
    > > at my machine.
    > What would you consider "proof" of a break-in on your machine that would
    > cause you to be willing to reinstall it?

    There is no clear definition.

    Had debsums told me that /bin/bash was modified I would have been quite

    Externally observed suspicious behavior of my machine I could not explain.

    Or many other things - after all I am a person with some basic
    understanding of security and how computers work.

    When I am convinced there was a break-in on my machine, I also have to
    assume that all important and not so important accounts I have anywhere
    (from unbelievably many Bugzilla accounts to machines where I have root
    access) are also compromised, and have to act accordingly.

    It is possible to convince me that there was likely a break-in on my
    machine, but I am not assuming the worst case automatically, and for
    going through that horror of assuming it happened I need to see
    something clearly pointing at my machine.

    > greg k-h



    "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
    of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
    "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
    Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

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