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    SubjectRe: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]
    On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Jeremy Allison <> wrote:
    > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:54:32AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
    >> On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 06:05:01AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
    >> > We don't need to ape Windows in everything.
    >> > The coming ACL disaster will show that (we will go from an ACL
    >> > model that is slightly too complex to use, to one that is impossibly
    >> > complex to use :-).
    >> Care to elaborate?
    > POSIX ACLs -> RichACLs (NT-style). Not criticising Andreas here,
    > people are asking for this. But Windows ACLs are a nightmare
    > beyond human comprehension :-). In the "too complex to be
    > usable" camp.

    Not much choice - even community colleges now have
    to teach students about this ACL model in their sysadmin courses.

    >> And what would native ACL support mean for Samba?
    > RichACLs'll do it, but I feel sorry for the admins :-).

    Yes - RichACLs and Windows ACLs allow you to set
    some strange combinations of permssion bits.
    RichACLs will make a more natural mapping for
    Samba and NFSv4 - and it is far too late to
    remove the requirement for Windows and
    MacOS (among other clients) support.



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