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SubjectRe: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)
2010/6/2 Peter Zijlstra <>:
> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 01:54 -0700, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
>> No I want you to stop confusing low power idle modes with suspend.
> I think it is you who is confused. For power management purposes suspend
> is nothing more but a deep idle state.

No, idle is transparent, suspend is not.

> (and please don't mention @#$@ up x86 ACPI again, Intel knows, they're
> fixing it, get over it already).

I don't think it is realistic to drop support for all existing hardware.

>> Unrelated to
>> Android, I also want to use opportunistic suspend on my desktop.
> So you're going to sprinkle this suspend blocker shite all over regular
> userspace?

I have said several times, that regular user-space will not need to be
modified to maintain their current behavior.

> Why not instead work on getting apps to behave properly and
> idle when there's nothing to do?
> After all, if you have the code to add suspend blockers into, you also
> have the means to fix it being stupid in the first place.

Why would I add suspend blockers to the code I want to prevent running?

Arve Hjønnevåg
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