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    SubjectRe: [git pull] drm request 3
    On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Linus Torvalds
    <> wrote:
    > Hmm. What the hell am I supposed to do about
    >        (II) NOUVEAU(0): [drm] nouveau interface version: 0.0.16
    >        (EE) NOUVEAU(0): [drm] wrong version, expecting 0.0.15
    >        (EE) NOUVEAU(0): 879:
    > now?

    You can update your userspace components. No compatibility is offered
    between versions in any direction.

    > What happened to the whole backwards compatibility thing? I wasn't even
    > warned that this breaks existing user space. That makes it impossible to
    > _test_ new kernels. Upgrading X and the kernel in lock-step is not a valid
    > model, lots of people are just using some random distribution (F12 in my
    > case), and you just broke it.
    > I see the commit that does this was very aware of it:
    >        commit a1606a9596e54da90ad6209071b357a4c1b0fa82
    >        Author: Ben Skeggs <>
    >        Date:   Fri Feb 12 10:27:35 2010 +1000
    >            drm/nouveau: new gem pushbuf interface, bump to 0.0.16
    >            This commit breaks the userspace interface, and requires a new libdrm for
    >            nouveau to operate again.
    >            The multiple GEM_PUSHBUF ioctls that were present in 0.0.15 for
    >            compatibility purposes are now gone, and replaced with the new ioctl which
    >            allows for multiple push buffers to be submitted (necessary for hw index
    >            buffers in the nv50 3d driver) and relocations to be applied on any buffer.
    >            A number of other ioctls (CARD_INIT, GEM_PIN, GEM_UNPIN) that were needed
    >            for userspace modesetting have also been removed.
    >            Signed-off-by: Ben Skeggs <>
    >            Signed-off-by: Francisco Jerez <>
    > but why the hell wasn't I made aware of it before-hand? Quite frankly, I
    > probably wouldn't have pulled it.
    > We can't just go around breaking peoples setups. This driver is, like it
    > or not, used by Fedora-12 (and probably other distros). It may say
    > "staging", but that doesn't change the fact that it's in production use by
    > huge distributions. Flag days aren't acceptable.
    >                Linus
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