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SubjectRe: RFC: Ideal Adaptive Spinning Conditions
CC'ing the right Chris this time.

Darren Hart wrote:
> I'm looking at some adaptive spinning with futexes as a way to help
> reduce the dependence on sched_yield() to implement userspace spinlocks.
> Chris, I included you in the CC after reading your comments regarding
> sched_yield() at kernel summit and I thought you might be interested.
>
> I have an experimental patchset that implements FUTEX_LOCK and
> FUTEX_LOCK_ADAPTIVE in the kernel and use something akin to
> mutex_spin_on_owner() for the first waiter to spin. What I'm finding is
> that adaptive spinning actually hurts my particular test case, so I was
> hoping to poll people for context regarding the existing adaptive
> spinning implementations in the kernel as to where we see benefit. Under
> which conditions does adaptive spinning help?
>
> I presume locks with a short average hold time stand to gain the most as
> the longer the lock is held the more likely the spinner will expire its
> timeslice or that the scheduling gain becomes noise in the acquisition
> time. My test case simple calls "lock();unlock()" for a fixed number of
> iterations and reports the iterations per second at the end of the run.
> It can run with an arbitrary number of threads as well. I typically run
> with 256 threads for 10M iterations.
>
> futex_lock: Result: 635 Kiter/s
> futex_lock_adaptive: Result: 542 Kiter/s
>
> I've limited the number of spinners to 1 but feel that perhaps this
> should be configurable as locks with very short hold times could benefit
> from up to NR_CPUS-1 spinners.
>
> I'd really appreciate any data, just general insight, you may have
> acquired while implementing adaptive spinning for rt-mutexes and
> mutexes. Open questions for me regarding conditions where adaptive
> spinning helps are:
>
> o What type of lock hold times do we expect to benefit?
> o How much contention is a good match for adaptive spinning?
> - this is related to the number of threads to run in the test
> o How many spinners should be allowed?
>
> I can share the kernel patches if people are interested, but they are
> really early, and I'm not sure they are of much value until I better
> understand the conditions where this is expected to be useful.
>
> Thanks,
>


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Darren Hart
IBM Linux Technology Center
Real-Time Linux Team


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