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    SubjectRe: [PATCH 8/15] sched: Add parameter sched_mn_power_savings to control MN domain sched policy
    On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 08:24 +0200, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
    > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 04:56:18PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
    > > On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 15:39 +0200, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
    > > > Signed-off-by: Andreas Herrmann <>
    > > > ---
    > >
    > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_MN
    > > > + if (!err && mc_capable())
    > > > + err = sysfs_create_file(&cls->kset.kobj,
    > > > + &attr_sched_mn_power_savings.attr);
    > > > +#endif
    > >
    > > *sigh* another crappy sysfs file
    > >
    > > Guys, can't we come up with anything better than sched_*_power_saving=n?
    > Thought this is a settled thing. At least there are already two
    > such parameters. So using the existing convention is an obvious
    > thing, no?

    Well, yes its the obvious thing, but I'm questioning whether its the
    best thing ;-)

    > > This configuration space is _way_ too large, and now it gets even
    > > crazier.
    > I don't fully agree.
    > Having one control interface for each domain level is just one
    > approach. It gives the user full control of scheduling policies.
    > It just might have to be properly documented.
    > In another mail Vaidy mentioned that
    > "at some point we wanted to change the interface to
    > sched_power_savings=N and and set the flags according to system
    > topology".
    > But how you'll decide at which domain level you have to do power
    > savings scheduling?

    The user isn't interested in knowing about domains and cpu topology in
    99% of the cases, all they want is the machine not burning power like
    there's no tomorrow.

    Users (me including) have no interest exploring a 27-state power
    configuration space in order to find out what works best for them, I'd
    throw up my hands and not bother, really.

    > Using sched_mn_power_savings=1 is quite different from
    > sched_smt_power_savings=1. Probably, the most power you save if you
    > switch on power saving scheduling on each domain level. I.e. first
    > filling threads of one core, then filling all cores on one internal
    > node, then filling all internal nodes of one socket.
    > But for performance reasons a user might just want to use power
    > savings in the MN domain. How you'd allow the user to configure that
    > with just one interface? Passing the domain level to
    > sched_power_savings, e.g. sched_power_savings=MC instead of the power
    > saving level?

    Sure its different, it reduces the configuration space, that gives less
    choice, but does make it accessible.

    Ask joe-admin what he prefers.

    If you're really really worried people might miss the joy of fine tuning
    their power scheduling, then we can provide a dual interface, one for
    dumb people like me, and one for crazy people like you ;-)

    > Besides that, don't we have to keep the user-interface stable, i.e.
    > stick to sched_smt_power_savings and sched_mc_power_savings?

    Don't ever defend crappy stuff with interface stability, that's just
    lame ;-)

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