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    SubjectRe: Deleting timers
    On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Alan Stern <> wrote:

    > Thomas:

    I'm not Thomas, but I play one on TV.

    > The major difference -- in fact, almost the only difference -- between
    > del_timer() and try_to_del_timer_sync() is that try_to_del_timer_sync
    > returns a special code (-1) if the timer couldn't be deleted because it
    > is currently running, whereas del_timer doesn't check this.

    And del_timer() is heaps faster against a not-pending timer. I have a
    vague memory that there are some callsites which do this quite a lot.

    And try_to_del_timer_sync() forgot to do timer_stats_timer_clear_start_info().

    > Furthermore, the "_sync" in the name suggests that
    > try_to_del_timer_sync will wait until a running timer has finished,
    > which it clearly does not do.


    > Despite these facts, the kerneldoc for try_to_del_timer_sync states
    > that it must not be called in interrupt context. Why not? Isn't that
    > advice simply wrong?

    : commit fd450b7318b75343fd76b3d95416853e34e72c95
    : Author: Oleg Nesterov <>
    : AuthorDate: Thu Jun 23 00:08:59 2005 -0700
    : Commit: Linus Torvalds <>
    : CommitDate: Thu Jun 23 09:45:16 2005 -0700
    : [PATCH] timers: introduce try_to_del_timer_sync()
    : This patch splits del_timer_sync() into 2 functions. The new one,
    : try_to_del_timer_sync(), returns -1 when it hits executing timer.
    : It can be used in interrupt context, or when the caller hold locks which
    : can prevent completion of the timer's handler.
    : NOTE. Currently it can't be used in interrupt context in UP case, because
    : ->running_timer is used only with CONFIG_SMP.
    : Should the need arise, it is possible to kill #ifdef CONFIG_SMP in
    : set_running_timer(), it is cheap.

    The changelog is somewhat vodka-fogged, but there is a bit of a problem

    > With this in mind, would there be any objection if I renamed it to
    > try_to_del_timer(), removed the comment forbidding it to be used in
    > interrupt context, and made it available even on non-SMP builds?

    Sounds sane to me, if the set_running_timer() change is also made.

    > Alan Stern
    > P.S.: The only other difference is that del_timer calls
    > timer_stats_timer_clear_start_info. Why doesn't try_to_del_timer_sync
    > do the same thing?

    This could be a day-one bug in

    : commit 82f67cd9fca8c8762c15ba7ed0d5747588c1e221
    : Author: Ingo Molnar <>
    : AuthorDate: Fri Feb 16 01:28:13 2007 -0800
    : Commit: Linus Torvalds <>
    : CommitDate: Fri Feb 16 08:13:59 2007 -0800
    : [PATCH] Add debugging feature /proc/timer_stat

    timer-stats omits accumulation for del_timer_sync() also.

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