Messages in this thread | | | Date | Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:52:43 +0200 | From | Pavel Machek <> | Subject | Re: [RFC] accessibility, speakup, speech synthesis & /sys |
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> > > > If the word is so long that you have to write number of its letters > > > > inside... then you are using wrong word. > > > > > > Unfortunately that's the word. If the very notion of accessibility was > > > realized by mankind earlier maybe we'd have had a shorter word for it. > > > > "speech" would seem good enough substitute. > > For the speech case. Then you could have braille, speech recognition, > etc.
Well, but maybe braile and speech recognition _don't_ belong together?
> > > I'd actually say it's particularly not adequate. Try to feed your dmesg > > > to a speech synthesizer and try to understand it. > > > > Do you really expect blind people to do kernel hacking? > > They do. Why shouldn't they be able to? ... > > > > You know... "normal" consoles (such as vt) do fail sometimes, too. > > > > > > Yes, and in such case sighted and blind users are on equal basis. In > > > that case there is no need for a particular support for blind people. > > > > You know, we do not translate kernel messages into other languages, > > either. So maybe we should make sure that Linux machines can be used > > without reading dmesg, and just do it from initrd? > > People can learn english. Blind people can't learn seeing.
I guess for such case, serial console to machine with running system (with speech synthesis/braille/etc) is the way to go. Anything else just will not work early enough. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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