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    SubjectRe: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support
    nOn Sat 2009-06-13 01:30:16, Ben Dooks wrote:
    > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:24:45PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
    > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:15:10AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
    > > > On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 13:38 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
    > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:00:30AM -0700, David Miller wrote:
    > > > > > From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
    > > > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:49:12 +0100
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > I can not keep up with the number of patches that need to be
    > > > > > > reviewed and ultimately merged. I know this, and I freely admit it,
    > > > > > > and I have done so on many occasions.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Then split up the responsibilities to other people instead of being
    > > > > > the choke point. Controlling everything isn't so important.
    > > > >
    > > > > Don't you think that I've been trying to get other people to be more
    > > > > involved?
    > > > >
    > > > > - I've been pushing people to send patches to the relevent mailing
    > > > > list(s) and maintainer(s) for years.
    > > > >
    > > > > - I've been pushing people to send their ARM patches to the ARM
    > > > > mailing list rather than directly into the patch system for review
    > > > > (it even has a comment telling people this) so that others can get
    > > > > involved in reviewing them, and sharing that work load.
    > > > >
    > > > > Do you think either have been anywhere near successful?
    > > > []
    > > > > I've been trying to get greater participation
    > > > > but it's just not happening.
    > > >
    > > > I suggest you stop using subscriber-only mailing lists and
    > > > use linux-arm@vger.kernel.org.
    > >
    > > This is main point here is to offload Russell.
    > > One way to offload Russell is to have competent people reviewing platform
    > > code for ARM. This is best done by other platform people.
    > > Me and you - we can helpt. But the people where we need higher
    > > involvement are already on the list.
    >
    > Personally, I'm not on linux-arm@vger.kernel.org and don't plan on
    > being there either. If people are too stupid to read the maintainers
    > entry and realise that linux-arm-kernel is moderated and they might
    > thus have to subscribe to post there then they can be safely ignored.

    Really? So IDE maintainers have to subscribe before when they want to
    discuss ARM&CF issues? Sleep maintainers have to subscribe when they
    want to discuss sleep&ARM?

    You are offending people by first adding unneccessary & annoying steps
    to their workflow, and then calling them "too stupid" if they don't
    follow your stupid rules. (Sometimes subscribing takes _weeks_!)

    Yes, everyone should just join linux-arm@vger.kernel.org. What is the
    _advantage_ of heave heavilly moderated mailing list?
    Pavel
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