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SubjectRe: [linux-pm] Async suspend-resume patch w/ completions (was: Re: Async suspend-resume patch w/ rwsems)
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, Alan Stern wrote:

> > Namely that there's no apparent sane way to say "don't wait for children".
> >
> > PCI bridges that don't suspend at all - or any other device that only
> > suspends in the 'suspend_late()' thing, for that matter - don't have any
> > reason what-so-ever to wait for children, since they aren't actually
> > suspending in the first place. But you make them wait regardless, which
> > then serializes things unnecessarily (for example, two unrelated USB
> > controllers).

> In short, allowing devices to suspend before their children would be
> dangerous and probably would not save a significant amount of time.

There's more to be said. Even without this "don't wait for children"
thing, there can be bad interactions causing unnecessary delays. For
example, suppose A (async) is the parent of B (sync), B comes before C
(sync) in dpm_list, and C is the parent of D (async). Even if A & B
are unrelated to C & D, they will be forced to wait for them. It
doesn't matter that A and D are unrelated and so could suspend
concurrently.

In essence, every synchonrous device is treated as though it depends on
all the synchronous devices preceding it in dpm_list. That's a lot of
unnecessary constraints. At the moment we have no choice, because we
have to assume that some of those constraints actually are necessary --
and we don't know which ones.

It's an inescapable fact: If there are unnecessary ordering constraints
then you generally can't be 100% efficient in carrying out parallel
operations. Compared with all these extra "synchronous" constraints,
the relatively small number of "don't need to wait for children"
constraints is harmless. I bet that if we got rid of all unnecessary
constraints except for making parents always wait for their children,
we'd attain more than 95% of the ideal speedup.

Alan Stern



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