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    SubjectRe: [Patch] Scale pidhash_shift/pidhash_size up based on num_possible_cpus().
    Eric W. Biederman wrote:
    > Robin Holt <> writes:
    >> Oops, confusing details. That was a different problem we had been
    >> tracking.
    > Which leads back to the original question. What were you measuring
    > that showed improvement with a larger pid hash size?
    > Almost by definition a larger hash table will perform better. However
    > my intuition is that we are talking about something that should be in
    > the noise for most workloads.

    Robin asked me to chime in on this, as I did the early "look at that"
    work and suggested it to Robin.

    I noticed the potential for increasing pid_shift while chasing down a
    patch to our kernel (2.6.16 stable based) which had proc_pid_readdir()
    calling find_pid() for init_task through the highest pid #. This patch
    caused a rather serious problem on a 2048 core Altix. Before
    identifying the culprit, I increased pidhash_shift. This made a *huge*
    difference: enough to get the box marginally functional while I tracked
    down the origins of the problem.

    After backing out the problematic patch, I took a look at pidhash_shift
    in normal circumstances: With pidhash_shift == 12, running only a few
    common services and monitoring tools (sendmail, nagios, etc for ~28k
    active processes, mostly of the kernel variety), the 20 cpu boot cpuset
    we use on that system to confine normal system processes and interactive
    logins was spending >1% of it's time in find_pid(), and an 'ls /proc >
    /dev/null' took >0.4s. With pidhash_shift == 16, the timing went to
    <0.2, and the total time spent in find_pid() was reduced to noise level.

    In addition to raising the limit on larger systems, it looked reasonable
    to scale the pid hash with the # processors instead of memory. While I
    observed variably high process:cpu ratios on small systems (2c - 32c),
    they also have relatively few processes. The 192c - 2048c systems I was
    able to look at were all hovering at 13 +/- 2 processes per cpu, even
    with wildly varying memory sizes.

    Despite more recent changes in proc_pid_readdir, my results should apply
    to current source. It looks like both the old 2.6.16 implementation and
    the current version will call find_pid (or equivalent) once for each
    successive getdents() call on /proc, excepting when the cursor is on the
    first entry. A quick look, and we have 88 getdents64() calls both 'ps'
    and 'ls /proc' with 29k processes running, which appears to be the
    primary source of calls.

    It's not giganormous, although I probably could come up with a pointless
    microbenchmark to show it's 300% better. Importantly, it does
    noticeably improve normal interactive tools like 'ps' and 'top', a
    performance visualization tool developed by a customer (nodemon)
    refreshes faster. For a 512k init allocation, that seems like a very
    good deal.

    I'd like to lose 20,000 kernel processes in addition to growing the pid

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