Messages in this thread | | | Date | Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:41:24 +0200 | From | Pavel Machek <> | Subject | Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to alinuxinterfaceforon access scanning |
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On Sun 2008-08-17 20:07:39, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:58:44 +0200 > Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz> wrote: > > > Rather than modify all the applications using mmap (you can't tell if > > the other side is going to use it for shared memory... right?), we > > could simply modify all the Windows-facing applications using mmap. > > If web browsers, office suites and mail clients on Windows > have certain kinds of vulnerabilities, it is safe to assume > that the same programs on Linux will have similar problems. > > Can we please get rid of the idea that "Windows facing" is > where the whole malware problem is? > > As for how to solve it - lets try to come up with a solution > that is reasonably high performance and can be used for more > than just malware scanning.
Don't mix exploits with viruses -- they are different.
Exploit is where application does something very unexpected due to a bug.
Virus is where machine works correctly, but user does something stupid.
For exploits, randomization + patching + compartments seem like a solution. We should be working on "how to confine openoffice.org so that it can't do much damage" instead of "how to detect .doc documents that makes openoffice.org do something unexpected".
Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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